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Unemployment Extension Fight for Tier V and Extensions

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4:37 pm
November 15, 2010


Michael Colliss

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You are correct, unless Congress reauthorizes the existing tiers  (1-4) no person will be allowed to move from any tier (or state benefits) to the next tier if such movement woudl occur after 11/30.

You are also correct – a Tier V cannot happen unless Tiers 1-4 are reauthrrized.

I strongly suggest you consider giving your state unemployment people a call to discuss your specific situation with them

4:09 pm
November 15, 2010


snoopy11

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Hey can someone give me 1 answer. I am on new claim of unemployment no extensions  yet.   Question is   Do I not have 1 EB benifits after nov 30 or will i lose all after that. The current claim will run out 2nd week of January. I read and read and i cant get all this straight. I Hope i explained this right cause i have tried to get it. And yes I have tried to find  work .IT AINT PRETTY I not preaching gloom and doom but its hard. Thank you

 

Am I right to understand that unless they envoke all the tiers of 1 thru 4 they cant open a tier v. Cause this would leave everyone not the 99ers out pf picture. Response is appreciated.Cool

1:07 pm
September 21, 2010


skipkm10

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I'm one of the 6 million struggling to survive now.  The Congress and the Senate must think that we unemployed Americans who pay the taxes, that pay their salary are stupid enough to swallow this guff that they're not going to get off their dead asses until after the election and it won't effect their votes.  Social services is already overloaded and has little or nothing left to offer those in need.  A Tier V extension is very necessary for the stability of this country now, NOT November.

4:15 am
September 13, 2010


ladylande

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I WANT MY AMERICAN DREAM BACK!!! 
I'm a 36 yr old single parent of 3, I've lost my job of 11 YEARS do to the company folding. I put myself through school, owned my home & had a brand new car.. I had the American Dream. In 6 months I lost my everything. Now 11/2 yrs later, I desperatly search for work everyday. I have NOT had electric in my home going on 3 months, my water was shut off again for a 
month before I could get help to pay the bill. My unemployment ended in April & now I have been forced to steal in order to feed my kids & survive. I'm  ashamed of myself but ya gotta do what ya gotta do…..thank god the kids are back in school, now they can eat 2 healthy meals a day. Tier 5 extention would get my power back on & allow me to put at least 2 meals a day on the table and gas in my piece of shit car so I can continue to look for work.
I just don't understand why the goverment can send a rediculous amount of money to other contries when my kids & I have to suffer living in the USA. I WANT MY AMERICAN DREAM BACK OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

6:38 pm
September 2, 2010


Fred Madden

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I agree that when it comes to companies that over expanded during good times, they can now close those extra shops/branches down and maintain their profits.  But, as I said before, it is a win-win for some companies… but this is just a small percentage of the companies.

 

Not every business model is designed, or is it possible for it to be designed, around being able to just scale back production and still keep their same profits.  Car companies are a good example of this.  Their production lines are so enormous and expensive, and are also required in order to produce a vehicle, that they can't just scale them back if they want to continue making that same line of vehicles.  Plus, in this economy, they aren't going to find buyers for their massive plants if they do decide to close them.  Granted, they do take advantage of the tax write-offs when they do shut them down, but it still hurts them financially overall.

 

And by law, you can't lay someone off and then hire a cheaper worker to replace them.  (There are plenty of laws protecting employees.)  With small companies, it is pretty easy to get around this law though, because layoffs are just a handful of people, and you can hire cheaper workers to replace them by using different titles for them (I've seen this done several times.)  But the larger companies can not get away with this.  Laying off even just 200 people and then hiring back 200 cheaper workers within 6 months would raise a lot of red flags.

 

Basically, QT, what it comes down to is that what you are saying is correct for a small percent of businesses, but it doesn't apply to the majority of them.

 

One other thing, when it comes to seeing all the closed stores in strip malls and such, a good percentage of them were franchises, i.e., a Starbucks.  So Starbucks Corporate sees a loss in profits because they lose revenue from every franchised Starbucks that closes.  Those franchises were just 100% profit for them, it didn't cost Starbucks Corporate a thing to have those shops individually owned, and every where.  So the more Starbucks that close (and I have seen quite a few of them close) the less money Corporate makes. 

[For the record, I don't know Starbucks' franchise model, so they may not be the best example.  I know McDonald's franchise model includes some sort of clause that causes Corporate to keep a failing McD's up and running... which is why you almost never see one close.  Which makes them a terrible company to use in my example above.]

5:29 pm
September 2, 2010


qtballbstr

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Companies that close stores are not all small business. Some are big business who expanded way too much and now they reduce stores to maintain profits.

Small businesses suffer too. But the testosterone that makes things move or not comes from the cohones of big business. Those who control the money, the banks and politicians control everything else. If a business is squashed, it get bought by a bigger fish. Therefore, more control in fewer hands.

How is that not a win-win for the controlling 'party' ?

3:37 am
September 2, 2010


Fred Madden

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QT, while I agree with most of what you have to say, I have to disagree about it being a "win-win" for most companies.  Some companies are making money and are in the win-win situation.

But overall, the majority of companies are not seeing sales like they did a few years ago.  Which means they may be winning on the getting employees for cheap side, but they are hurting on the sales side.  So at best, by cutting their costs of employees, they may be able to keep their same profits, but they aren't making more than they were a few years ago, and likely are bringing in overall less profit.

 

Just the fact that most strip malls have every other store in them closed is proof enough that most companies aren't in a win-win situation.  Not to mention the endless number of chains that have gone out of business.

 

But I do know of companies, like Disney, that have laid off a large percentage of their employees (non-amusement park ones) and are turning out profits higher than predicted.  Laying people off just so they can increase their profits just doesn't sit right with me during these bad economic times. 

2:44 am
September 2, 2010


qtballbstr

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Many of us have signed petitons, sent emails, called both Democrats adn Republicans.

It seems thast politicians are playing war among themselves, while we are just collateral damage.

Personaly, I think corporations/companies are taking full advantage of this recession in an election year. The job market is being held hostage until 'they' get what they want/hope for: Republicans taking over the majority, make the Bush tax cuts permanent and erase any progress made.

All new jobs start at lower wages, offer less benefits, many are part-time and STILL companies get tax incentives for those hired. And STILL keep sending jobs overseas and push for more H1-B and L1 visa workers.

It's a win-win for them.

I have been saying for months now that we are beyond venting on blogs. 99ers, unemployed, underemployed and any employee that has any sense at all MUST take their voices to the streets.

If we don't, we will lose and only have oursevles to blame for it.

9:07 pm
August 27, 2010


Michael Colliss

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There are some critical weeks coming up on legislation on unemployment extensions and Tier V. What do you propose we can do to move this legislation along?



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